From gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca  Tue Apr  7 15:43:07 2009
From: gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca (Gilbert E. Detillieux)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:43:07 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [RndTbl] MUUG Meeting, April 14,
	7:30pm -- Xubuntu on a Mini-ITX System
Message-ID: <200904072043.n37Kh7728113@iron.cs.umanitoba.ca>

The Manitoba UNIX User Group (MUUG) will be holding its next monthly
meeting on Tuesday, April 14.  The meeting topic for this month is
as follows:

   Xubuntu on a Mini-ITX Single-Board System

   Single-board  PC's  are becoming increasingly small, cheap and
   plentiful. The Mini-ITX motherboard offers almost everything you
   need to set up a basic system running a scaled-down or full-featured
   Linux distribution. Just add an enclosure, power supply and disk,
   and you're good to go. But there may be a few "gotchas" along the
   way.

   In this interactive demo presentation, Scott Balneaves, from Legal
   Aid  Manitoba,  will  bring  a  few surplus Epia 5000 Mini-ITX
   motherboards along. In his demo, he plans to do the following:

    1. Step  through the mobo's features, identifying pinouts for
       headers, etc.
    2. Install a mobo in a case, demonstrating connecting PSU, disk,
       cdrom, etc.
    3. Install Xubuntu on the system.

The group holds its general meetings at 7:30pm on the second Tuesday of
every month from September to June.  (There are no meetings in July and
August.) Meetings are open to the general public; you don't have to be a
MUUG member to attend.

   **********************************************************************
   Please note our meeting location: The IBM offices, at 400 Ellice Ave.
   (between Edmonton and Kennedy). When you arrive, you will have to
   sign in at the reception desk, and then wait for someone to take you
   (in groups) to the meeting room. Please try to arrive by about 7:15pm, 
   so the meeting can start promptly at 7:30pm. Don't be late, or you may
   not get in.  (But don't come too early either, since security may not
   be there to let you in before 7:15 or so.) Non-members may be required
   to show photo ID at the security desk.

   Limited parking is available for free on the street, either on Ellice
   Ave. or on some of the intersecting streets. Indoor parking is also
   available nearby, at Portage Place, for $3.00 for the evening. Bicycle
   parking is available in a bike rack under video surveillance located
   behind the building on Webb Place.
   **********************************************************************

For more information about MUUG, and its monthly meetings, check out their
Web server:

	http://www.muug.mb.ca/

Help us promote this month's meeting, by putting this poster up on your
workplace bulletin board or other suitable public message board:

	http://www.muug.mb.ca/meetings/MUUGmeeting.pdf

-- 
Gilbert E. Detillieux		E-mail: <gedetil at muug.mb.ca>
Manitoba UNIX User Group	Web:	http://www.muug.mb.ca/
PO Box 130 St-Boniface		Phone:  (204)474-8161
Winnipeg MB CANADA  R2H 3B4	Fax:    (204)474-7609

From gerald.brandt at norscan.com  Wed Apr  8 18:03:15 2009
From: gerald.brandt at norscan.com (Gerald Brandt)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:03:15 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [RndTbl] Linux Developer Position(s) Available
In-Reply-To: <31786825.9191239231584040.JavaMail.root@v01wtl07>
Message-ID: <30254988.9211239231795672.JavaMail.root@v01wtl07>

Norscan Instruments is looking for a Linux Embedded Software Developer.

We currently have a contract position available for approximately 160 hours of work.  The contract position involves modifying existing C and C++ source code for a project written in 2000 to extend functionality.  Some of the work will be C based cgi applications for web based access.

We currently have a full time position available.  Depending on start date, the above contract could be included in this position.


Intermediate Embedded Developer
-------------------------------
 

As an embedded developer, you will be responsible for gathering requirements and designing/implementing solutions that fit within specified architectures.  You are able to work in a team environment and communicate effectively with team members.
 

You are experienced in C++, preferably in an embedded Linux development environment.  Ideally, you have 5 to 7 years of experience in embedded systems.  You have experience using a formal software development process and using object oriented design techniques in your solutions.  Experience with SNMP, Linux Kernel driver development and ARM processors will be considered assets.

Please reply to:
gerald.brandt at norscan.com




From john at johnlange.ca  Wed Apr 15 14:32:58 2009
From: john at johnlange.ca (John Lange)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:32:58 -0500
Subject: [RndTbl] Really Old (antique) computer, Victor 9000
Message-ID: <1239823978.5644.47.camel@linux-2sym>

This is a bit off topic but I'm wondering what suggestions people have
for old computers that have slight historical significance?

I have, still in good working order (just booted it last weekend), a
Victor 9000.

There is a write up on it here:

http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=210

(side note: On that historical page, some of you might recognize the
name Michael Gillespie who used to run a company here in Winnipeg called
"Gray Research" in the Grain Exchange building dedicated to writing
software for the Victor 9000. But I digress..)

This particular machine holds a special attachment for me because I
wrote (with some help from Greg Moeller & Bruce Walzer, also of Grey
Research) and operated a BBS on it (the Twilight Zone).

Anyhow, I've finally decided I'd like to get rid of it but I can't stand
the thought of just dumping it in a Landfill (assuming they'd even let
me do that).

Anyone have any alternative suggestions?

-- 
John Lange
http://www.johnlange.ca


From trevor at tecnopolis.ca  Thu Apr 16 14:50:46 2009
From: trevor at tecnopolis.ca (Trevor Cordes)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:50:46 -0500
Subject: [RndTbl] Montana: recursive delete based on prefix
Message-ID: <20090416145046.4917e615@pog.tecnopolis.ca>

Here's my program that will easily, recursively delete all files with a
certain prefix.  I use .# for recoverable delete (if anyone wants my
matching rm command, I call "r", let me know).  Montana, you'll want to
switch file_prefix to '._'.  You'll also want to set $not_trevor=1 so
it doesn't do some extra features I use with my r.

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
#
# v2.1 by Trevor Cordes

# set the first 2 vars below first;
# you may need to change the perl, bash path references
# recursively deletes files that have a certain prefix (eg .#);
# recurses from the current dir if no args given, or from the given
#   directory arg(s);
# dir args cannot have spaces (currently, but would be easy to fix);
# should be safe for recursed files/dirs with spaces/newlines in name;
# deletions are recursive! so if a dir has the prefix then all sub-
#   dirs/files will be rm'd too!

# -o days	only expunge files r'd more than <days> days ago
# -q            quiet: don't output normal one-line-per-file status

$file_prefix='.#'; # set to the file prefix you want to delete, BE CAREFUL! 
$not_trevor =0; # set to 1 if you are not me
		# and not using this to expunge r'd files
		# disables the -o option

$ENV{'SHELL'}='/bin/bash';

use Getopt::Std;
getopts('qo:',\%opts);

$dir='.';
$dir=join(' ', at ARGV) if @ARGV;

$quiet=($opts{'q'}?1:0);

$olderthan=($opts{'o'} and $opts{'o'}>0)
  ? time-($opts{'o'}*86400)
  : time+100000; # fudge a time way in the future

print "Expunging <$dir>...\n" if !$quiet;

die if !$file_prefix; # sanity check!

system "find $dir -depth -xdev -name '$file_prefix*' -print0 "
 .($not_trevor
   ?''
   :"| perl -n0e 'print if !/~(\\d+)~\\d+~\\d+\\000?\$/ or \$1<$olderthan' " 
  )
 ."| xargs --no-run-if-empty --null /bin/rm -r ".($quiet?'':'-v');

From trevor at tecnopolis.ca  Fri Apr 17 10:26:38 2009
From: trevor at tecnopolis.ca (Trevor Cordes)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:26:38 -0500
Subject: [RndTbl] simple text file encryption/editor
Message-ID: <20090417102638.50e1de02@pog.tecnopolis.ca>

Someone was asking for an easy way to encrypt single files.  Here's
what I use all the time.  I call the program "gpp" (from GPg Pico).
Read notes before using.  Do not use on non-text files.  If you want
to encrypt non-text files just use gpg -c manually and delete the
original files.

You may need to adjust the path to perl and bash, and possibly cp,
but it should work as-is on any lsb linux system.  Must have gpg
installed, but I don't think anyone doesn't!


#!/usr/bin/perl -w
#
# v3.0 (c) Trevor Cordes; may be used & distributed freely

# use only on text files;
# edit the $editor var to set to your favorite editor (vi, emacs, nano);
# when first run on a text file, will encrypt it and delete original;
# when used on encrypted files (ending in .gpg)	will decrypt, load
#  into your editor, then re-encrypt once edited;
# when dealing with encrypted files, makes a backup copy in /tmp which
#  it leaves there for safety;
# note:	when editing, the file exists in plaintext on the disk,	so it's
#  not as nice/secure as an in-memory system would be during the edit;
# note:	backspace & arrows don't work when entering pw,	so just	^C if
#  you make a typo;
# relies on gpg's convention (-c) encryption, which is only as good as
#  your	password so make it good/long depending	on how secure you want
#  to be against brute force or	dictionary attacks;
# if you use emacs or an editor	that automatically makes backup files,
#  you must disable that or use	a simpler editor, otherwise you'll
#  leave plaintext file droppings everywhere;

$editor="/usr/bin/nano -t -z -w";

$ENV{SHELL}='/bin/bash';

$ef=shift;
-f $ef or die "not a file: $ef";

if (($uf)=($ef=~/^(.+?)(\.gpg)$/i)) {

  -f $uf and die "plaintext file already exists, will not overwrite ($uf)";

  $noslashesf=$ef;
  $noslashesf=~tr#/#_#;

  $efexists=1;

} else {

  $uf=$ef;
  $ef="$ef.gpg";
  $efexists=0;

}


# get pw
print "Enter password: ";
system "stty",'-icanon','-echo','eol',"\001";
$SIG{'INT'}='cleanup';

do {
  $char=getc(STDIN);
  print '*' if $char ne "\n";
  $pgppw.=$char;
} until $char eq "\n";
print "\n";
system "stty",'icanon','echo','eol','^@';
$unsttyd=1;


if ($efexists) {

  $baknum=0;
  $baknum++ while (-f "/tmp/$noslashesf.bak$baknum$$");
  system "/bin/cp -p $ef /tmp/$noslashesf.bak$baknum$$";

  open(PW,"| gpg --passphrase-fd 0 --batch $ef 2>/dev/null") or die;
  print PW $pgppw;
  close(PW);

  die "bad password\n" if !-s $uf or (-s $uf)<(-s $ef)-100;

  system "$editor $uf";

  unlink $ef if -f $ef;

}


open(PW,"| gpg -c --passphrase-fd 0 -z9 --batch $uf >/dev/null 2>&1")
 or die;
print PW $pgppw;
close(PW);

-f $ef
 or die "encryptions seems to have failed, leaving plaintext as is ($uf)";

unlink $uf if -f $uf;

#system "ls -ld $uf*";
#print "\nLooks like success!\n";

&cleanup;

sub cleanup{
  if (!$unsttyd) {
    system "stty",'icanon','echo','eol','^@';
    print "\n";
  }
  exit;
}

From montanaq at gmail.com  Sun Apr 19 23:29:10 2009
From: montanaq at gmail.com (Montana Quiring)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:29:10 -0500
Subject: [RndTbl] Vmware and Ubuntu 8.04 (vmware tools install)
Message-ID: <bdad73b60904192129l45d8f0f2l99a934d9d83c0468@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I would appreciate any advice on this.

I'm using the latest Vmware Fusion on a Mac.
In a VM image I've installed Ubuntu 8.4 Remix (it's the one that Dell
tweaked for the Dell Mini's)
The next step was to install the vmware tools since I had no networking...
When I run:
sudo ./vmware-install.pl
...the install ticks along OK until I get to this point:
<SNIP>
None of the pre-built vmmemctl modules for VMware Tools is suitable for your
running kernel.  Do you want this program to try to build the vmmemctl module
for your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)?
[yes]

Using compiler "/usr/bin/gcc". Use environment variable CC to override.

What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16/include

The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16/include" is a kernel header file
directory, but it does not contain the file "linux/version.h" as expected.
This can happen if the kernel has never been built, or if you have invoked the
"make mrproper" command in your kernel directory.  In any case, you may want to
rebuild your kernel.

What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
</SNIP>

NOTE: I had to copy across (on a USB flash drive) and install the
header files as they weren't already there (from what I could find)

I've started the process of preparing to recompile the kernel, but got
stuck in deb package hell trying to satisfy the dependancies of
build-essential

Can anyone offer any advice about how to get networking working, as
that would make getting everything else working easier.



-- 
-Montana
Blog:
http://montanaquiring.info
My Friend Feed:
http://friendfeed.com/antikx

From high.res.mike at gmail.com  Sun Apr 19 23:45:32 2009
From: high.res.mike at gmail.com (Mike Pfaiffer)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:45:32 -0500
Subject: [RndTbl] Vmware and Ubuntu 8.04 (vmware tools install)
In-Reply-To: <bdad73b60904192129l45d8f0f2l99a934d9d83c0468@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bdad73b60904192129l45d8f0f2l99a934d9d83c0468@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49EBFDEC.9090207@gmail.com>

Montana Quiring wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I would appreciate any advice on this.
> 
> I'm using the latest Vmware Fusion on a Mac.
> In a VM image I've installed Ubuntu 8.4 Remix (it's the one that Dell
> tweaked for the Dell Mini's)
> The next step was to install the vmware tools since I had no networking...
> When I run:
> sudo ./vmware-install.pl
> ...the install ticks along OK until I get to this point:
> <SNIP>
> None of the pre-built vmmemctl modules for VMware Tools is suitable for your
> running kernel.  Do you want this program to try to build the vmmemctl module
> for your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)?
> [yes]
> 
> Using compiler "/usr/bin/gcc". Use environment variable CC to override.
> 
> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16/include
> 
> The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16/include" is a kernel header file
> directory, but it does not contain the file "linux/version.h" as expected.
> This can happen if the kernel has never been built, or if you have invoked the
> "make mrproper" command in your kernel directory.  In any case, you may want to
> rebuild your kernel.
> 
> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
> </SNIP>
> 
> NOTE: I had to copy across (on a USB flash drive) and install the
> header files as they weren't already there (from what I could find)
> 
> I've started the process of preparing to recompile the kernel, but got
> stuck in deb package hell trying to satisfy the dependancies of
> build-essential
> 
> Can anyone offer any advice about how to get networking working, as
> that would make getting everything else working easier.

	I don't know if the situation has changed. However it turns out I had 
to do a separate install of C in order to get VMWare to work on an older 
install. The deb of gtk-gnutella will do it (apt-get install 
gtk-gnutella). Unfortunately the version in the repositories will 
install an out of date gtk-gnutella and may not work. Trying to install 
C by itself didn't work out too well for me.

	You may want to try VirtualBox. It seems to work fairly well. Their 
documents say they can run a VM from VMWare, but it didn't work when I 
tried it on a Mac about six months ago.

				Later
				Mike


From montanaq at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 09:29:05 2009
From: montanaq at gmail.com (Montana Quiring)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:29:05 -0500
Subject: [RndTbl] Vmware and Ubuntu 8.04 (vmware tools install)
In-Reply-To: <6756caf10904200724q25b0847cr1544f3cbf03e759f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bdad73b60904192129l45d8f0f2l99a934d9d83c0468@mail.gmail.com>
	<6756caf10904200724q25b0847cr1544f3cbf03e759f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bdad73b60904200729l72587f9au549d3bec38a15563@mail.gmail.com>

I would kind of like to stick with 8.04 remix so that I can help
support my sister-in-law who is running that on her mini.

-MQ

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Kevin McGregor
<kevin.a.mcgregor at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hm. Have you tried installing a "stock" Ubuntu image in the VM? Maybe the
> 8.10 release?
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Montana Quiring <montanaq at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I would appreciate any advice on this.
>>
>> I'm using the latest Vmware Fusion on a Mac.
>> In a VM image I've installed Ubuntu 8.4 Remix (it's the one that Dell
>> tweaked for the Dell Mini's)
>> The next step was to install the vmware tools since I had no networking...
>> When I run:
>> sudo ./vmware-install.pl
>> ...the install ticks along OK until I get to this point:
>> <SNIP>
>> None of the pre-built vmmemctl modules for VMware Tools is suitable for
>> your
>> running kernel. ?Do you want this program to try to build the vmmemctl
>> module
>> for your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)?
>> [yes]
>>
>> Using compiler "/usr/bin/gcc". Use environment variable CC to override.
>>
>> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your
>> running
>> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16/include
>>
>> The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16/include" is a kernel header
>> file
>> directory, but it does not contain the file "linux/version.h" as expected.
>> This can happen if the kernel has never been built, or if you have invoked
>> the
>> "make mrproper" command in your kernel directory. ?In any case, you may
>> want to
>> rebuild your kernel.
>>
>> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your
>> running
>> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
>> </SNIP>
>>
>> NOTE: I had to copy across (on a USB flash drive) and install the
>> header files as they weren't already there (from what I could find)
>>
>> I've started the process of preparing to recompile the kernel, but got
>> stuck in deb package hell trying to satisfy the dependancies of
>> build-essential
>>
>> Can anyone offer any advice about how to get networking working, as
>> that would make getting everything else working easier.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -Montana
>> Blog:
>> http://montanaquiring.info
>> My Friend Feed:
>> http://friendfeed.com/antikx
>> _______________________________________________
>> Roundtable mailing list
>> Roundtable at muug.mb.ca
>> http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
>
>



-- 
-Montana
Blog:
http://montanaquiring.info
My Friend Feed:
http://friendfeed.com/antikx


From kevin.a.mcgregor at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 09:24:31 2009
From: kevin.a.mcgregor at gmail.com (Kevin McGregor)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:24:31 -0500
Subject: [RndTbl] Vmware and Ubuntu 8.04 (vmware tools install)
In-Reply-To: <bdad73b60904192129l45d8f0f2l99a934d9d83c0468@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bdad73b60904192129l45d8f0f2l99a934d9d83c0468@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6756caf10904200724q25b0847cr1544f3cbf03e759f@mail.gmail.com>

Hm. Have you tried installing a "stock" Ubuntu image in the VM? Maybe the
8.10 release?

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Montana Quiring <montanaq at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I would appreciate any advice on this.
>
> I'm using the latest Vmware Fusion on a Mac.
> In a VM image I've installed Ubuntu 8.4 Remix (it's the one that Dell
> tweaked for the Dell Mini's)
> The next step was to install the vmware tools since I had no networking...
> When I run:
> sudo ./vmware-install.pl
> ...the install ticks along OK until I get to this point:
> <SNIP>
> None of the pre-built vmmemctl modules for VMware Tools is suitable for
> your
> running kernel.  Do you want this program to try to build the vmmemctl
> module
> for your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)?
> [yes]
>
> Using compiler "/usr/bin/gcc". Use environment variable CC to override.
>
> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your
> running
> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16/include
>
> The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16/include" is a kernel header file
> directory, but it does not contain the file "linux/version.h" as expected.
> This can happen if the kernel has never been built, or if you have invoked
> the
> "make mrproper" command in your kernel directory.  In any case, you may
> want to
> rebuild your kernel.
>
> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your
> running
> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
> </SNIP>
>
> NOTE: I had to copy across (on a USB flash drive) and install the
> header files as they weren't already there (from what I could find)
>
> I've started the process of preparing to recompile the kernel, but got
> stuck in deb package hell trying to satisfy the dependancies of
> build-essential
>
> Can anyone offer any advice about how to get networking working, as
> that would make getting everything else working easier.
>
>
>
> --
> -Montana
> Blog:
> http://montanaquiring.info
> My Friend Feed:
> http://friendfeed.com/antikx
> _______________________________________________
> Roundtable mailing list
> Roundtable at muug.mb.ca
> http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
>
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From grdetil at scrc.umanitoba.ca  Mon Apr 20 11:30:28 2009
From: grdetil at scrc.umanitoba.ca (Gilles Detillieux)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:30:28 -0500
Subject: [RndTbl] Vmware and Ubuntu 8.04 (vmware tools install)
In-Reply-To: <bdad73b60904192129l45d8f0f2l99a934d9d83c0468@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bdad73b60904192129l45d8f0f2l99a934d9d83c0468@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49ECA324.8010207@scrc.umanitoba.ca>

On 19/04/2009 11:29 PM, Montana Quiring wrote:
> I'm using the latest Vmware Fusion on a Mac.
> In a VM image I've installed Ubuntu 8.4 Remix (it's the one that Dell
> tweaked for the Dell Mini's)
> The next step was to install the vmware tools since I had no networking...
> When I run:
> sudo ./vmware-install.pl
> ...the install ticks along OK until I get to this point:
> <SNIP>
> None of the pre-built vmmemctl modules for VMware Tools is suitable for your
> running kernel.  Do you want this program to try to build the vmmemctl module
> for your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)?
> [yes]
...
> NOTE: I had to copy across (on a USB flash drive) and install the
> header files as they weren't already there (from what I could find)
> 
> I've started the process of preparing to recompile the kernel, but got
> stuck in deb package hell trying to satisfy the dependancies of
> build-essential
> 
> Can anyone offer any advice about how to get networking working, as
> that would make getting everything else working easier.

Well, I've neither tried Ubuntu under VMware, nor had to build network 
drivers, but when I've needed to build other kernel modules under 
Ubuntu, I've used apt-get to install what I've needed.  It should look 
after all the dependencies for you and get you out of deb package hell.

And right now, you're probably thinking "well, duh, how can I use 
apt-get if I don't have a network driver?"  A quick Google search shows 
that others have been in the same boat (not too surprising), and the 
advice is usually to get apt-get or aptitude to install from an Ubuntu 
CD.  So, burn yourself an Ubuntu CD if you don't have one already (you 
may need the full Ubuntu CD, as the remix may not have all the packages 
you need), and read a couple of these:

https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/35810
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/138207-build-essential-package-how-do-i-get-without-internet.html
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36365.html

Hope this helps.

-- 
Gilles R. Detillieux              E-mail: <grdetil at scrc.umanitoba.ca>
Spinal Cord Research Centre       WWW:    http://www.scrc.umanitoba.ca/
Dept. Physiology, U. of Manitoba  Winnipeg, MB  R3E 0J9  (Canada)

From montanaq at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 12:00:52 2009
From: montanaq at gmail.com (Montana Quiring)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:00:52 -0500
Subject: [RndTbl] Vmware and Ubuntu 8.04 (vmware tools install)
In-Reply-To: <49ECA324.8010207@scrc.umanitoba.ca>
References: <bdad73b60904192129l45d8f0f2l99a934d9d83c0468@mail.gmail.com>
	<49ECA324.8010207@scrc.umanitoba.ca>
Message-ID: <bdad73b60904201000x647a9b3erfffdb70437446c47@mail.gmail.com>

ahhhh.. and then add the CD into the repository list.
Brilliant!
I hadn't thought of that and never saw that in my extensive googling.

Thanks Gilles, I'll give it a shot.

-Montana
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Gilles Detillieux
<grdetil at scrc.umanitoba.ca> wrote:
> On 19/04/2009 11:29 PM, Montana Quiring wrote:
>>
>> I'm using the latest Vmware Fusion on a Mac.
>> In a VM image I've installed Ubuntu 8.4 Remix (it's the one that Dell
>> tweaked for the Dell Mini's)
>> The next step was to install the vmware tools since I had no networking...
>> When I run:
>> sudo ./vmware-install.pl
>> ...the install ticks along OK until I get to this point:
>> <SNIP>
>> None of the pre-built vmmemctl modules for VMware Tools is suitable for
>> your
>> running kernel. ?Do you want this program to try to build the vmmemctl
>> module
>> for your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)?
>> [yes]
>
> ...
>>
>> NOTE: I had to copy across (on a USB flash drive) and install the
>> header files as they weren't already there (from what I could find)
>>
>> I've started the process of preparing to recompile the kernel, but got
>> stuck in deb package hell trying to satisfy the dependancies of
>> build-essential
>>
>> Can anyone offer any advice about how to get networking working, as
>> that would make getting everything else working easier.
>
> Well, I've neither tried Ubuntu under VMware, nor had to build network
> drivers, but when I've needed to build other kernel modules under Ubuntu,
> I've used apt-get to install what I've needed. ?It should look after all the
> dependencies for you and get you out of deb package hell.
>
> And right now, you're probably thinking "well, duh, how can I use apt-get if
> I don't have a network driver?" ?A quick Google search shows that others
> have been in the same boat (not too surprising), and the advice is usually
> to get apt-get or aptitude to install from an Ubuntu CD. ?So, burn yourself
> an Ubuntu CD if you don't have one already (you may need the full Ubuntu CD,
> as the remix may not have all the packages you need), and read a couple of
> these:
>
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/35810
> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/138207-build-essential-package-how-do-i-get-without-internet.html
> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36365.html
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> --
> Gilles R. Detillieux ? ? ? ? ? ? ?E-mail: <grdetil at scrc.umanitoba.ca>
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> Dept. Physiology, U. of Manitoba ?Winnipeg, MB ?R3E 0J9 ?(Canada)
>



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From sbalneav at legalaid.mb.ca  Mon Apr 20 12:10:09 2009
From: sbalneav at legalaid.mb.ca (Scott Balneaves)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:10:09 -0500
Subject: [RndTbl] Vmware and Ubuntu 8.04 (vmware tools install)
In-Reply-To: <49ECA324.8010207@scrc.umanitoba.ca>
References: <bdad73b60904192129l45d8f0f2l99a934d9d83c0468@mail.gmail.com>
	<49ECA324.8010207@scrc.umanitoba.ca>
Message-ID: <20090420171008.GG30779@legalaid.mb.ca>

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:30:28AM -0500, Gilles Detillieux wrote:

> > Can anyone offer any advice about how to get networking working, as
> > that would make getting everything else working easier.
> 
> Well, I've neither tried Ubuntu under VMware, nor had to build network 
> drivers, but when I've needed to build other kernel modules under 
> Ubuntu, I've used apt-get to install what I've needed.  It should look 
> after all the dependencies for you and get you out of deb package hell.
> 
> And right now, you're probably thinking "well, duh, how can I use 
> apt-get if I don't have a network driver?"  A quick Google search shows 
> that others have been in the same boat (not too surprising), and the 
> advice is usually to get apt-get or aptitude to install from an Ubuntu 
> CD.  So, burn yourself an Ubuntu CD if you don't have one already (you 
> may need the full Ubuntu CD, as the remix may not have all the packages 
> you need), and read a couple of these:

Two other notes:

1) If you're going to download a Ubuntu image, download the "alternate" cd's,
not the bootable desktop ones, as these are properly set up to be used as a
deb-cd repository.
2) Keep in mind that when rebuilding a package, it's easy to take care of all
the build deps in one command:

apt-get build-dep <package-name>

Scott

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