From gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca Mon Mar 2 10:27:03 2009 From: gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca (Gilbert E. Detillieux) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:27:03 -0600 Subject: [RndTbl] Fwd: Calgary Open Source Solution Festival: April 17th & 18th. More Info: http://cossfest.ca Message-ID: <49AC08D7.9040506@cs.umanitoba.ca> FYI... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Board] Calgary Open Source Solution Festival: April 17th & 18th. More Info: http://cossfest.ca Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:07:48 +0000 From: John E. Jardine To: undisclosed-recipients:; We would like to invite you and the members of your group to attend the Calgary Open Source Systems Festival (COSSFEST - www.cossfest.ca). COSSFEST is a two day event featuring multiple speaking tracks and workshops demonstrating the use of Open Source to lower costs, and increase the capabilities and competitiveness of your business. COSSFEST brings together thought leaders in the technology industry, technology professionals, businessmen, and computer enthusiasts to share the latest news and Open Source know-how. COSSFEST 2009 will be held April 17th and 18th 2009 at the Coast Plaza Hotel in Calgary. We ask that you pass this information on to your group members, and contact us if you would like to contribute. We are currently looking for: - sponsors to help offset the costs and highlight Open Source in the wild (http://www.cossfest.ca/sponsorpackages) - speakers to share the knowledge (http://www.cossfest.ca/cfp) - volunteers and any other ideas to make the event bigger and better! You can contact us at info at cossfest.ca for more information. Thank you for your time, and we look forward to seeing you on April 17th & 18th! From millward at ms.umanitoba.ca Tue Mar 3 10:26:58 2009 From: millward at ms.umanitoba.ca (schwartz) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:26:58 -0600 Subject: [RndTbl] External hard drives for Linux Message-ID: <200903031631.n23GVDQ01609@localhost.localdomain> I'm thinking of buying an external USB hard drive for my Linux desktop. I'm concerned that these USB drives might be non-generic, somehow dependent on XP/Vesta or have fixed file systems ( NTFS or FAT36 ) or just slow. Are any of the above an issue, or do they do a reasonable job. I just want to use one for storage, not to run an OS on. Best Buy has a SimpleTech 1 TB for $150. Future Shop has Comstar One-touch 1 TB for $150. I don't think my BIOS can handle 1 TB drives but for that price I'm temped anyway. Any information would be most appreciated. From billreid at shaw.ca Tue Mar 3 09:44:19 2009 From: billreid at shaw.ca (Bill Reid) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:44:19 -0600 Subject: [RndTbl] External hard drives for Linux In-Reply-To: <200903031631.n23GVDQ01609@localhost.localdomain> References: <200903031631.n23GVDQ01609@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49AD5053.5050703@shaw.ca> schwartz wrote: > I'm thinking of buying an external USB hard drive for my Linux desktop. > I'm concerned that these USB drives might be non-generic, somehow dependent I do not think this is an issue. I would think the USB Mass Storage standard is not OS or file system dependent. I am using EXT3 on my external USB drive. > I don't think my BIOS can handle 1 TB drives but for that price > I'm temped anyway. Unless you were going to boot from it your BIOS should not be involved. -- Bill From john at johnlange.ca Tue Mar 3 10:02:17 2009 From: john at johnlange.ca (John Lange) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:02:17 -0600 Subject: [RndTbl] External hard drives for Linux In-Reply-To: <200903031631.n23GVDQ01609@localhost.localdomain> References: <200903031631.n23GVDQ01609@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1236096137.5408.29.camel@linux-2sym> On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 10:26 -0600, schwartz wrote: > I'm thinking of buying an external USB hard drive for my Linux desktop. > I'm concerned that these USB drives might be non-generic, somehow dependent > on XP/Vesta or have fixed file systems ( NTFS or FAT36 ) or just slow. > Are any of the above an issue, or do they do a reasonable job. They are not OS specific. Some of them may come pre-formatted (must USB keys do) but you can easily reformat it. Keeping that in mind, if you intend to move it between a Windows machine and a Linux machine you should stick to a file system the Windows OS understands. > I just want to use one for storage, not to run an OS on. > Best Buy has a SimpleTech 1 TB for $150. > Future Shop has Comstar One-touch 1 TB for $150. Storage is so cheap now is ridiculous. Mind you I'd be interested to know how reliable they are. Regards, John Lange From gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca Tue Mar 3 10:24:08 2009 From: gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca (Gilbert E. Detillieux) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:24:08 -0600 Subject: [RndTbl] External hard drives for Linux In-Reply-To: <1236096137.5408.29.camel@linux-2sym> References: <200903031631.n23GVDQ01609@localhost.localdomain> <1236096137.5408.29.camel@linux-2sym> Message-ID: <49AD59A8.9000503@cs.umanitoba.ca> On 2009-03-03 10:02, John Lange wrote: > On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 10:26 -0600, schwartz wrote: >> I'm thinking of buying an external USB hard drive for my Linux desktop. >> I'm concerned that these USB drives might be non-generic, somehow dependent >> on XP/Vesta or have fixed file systems ( NTFS or FAT36 ) or just slow. >> Are any of the above an issue, or do they do a reasonable job. > > They are not OS specific. Some of them may come pre-formatted (must USB > keys do) but you can easily reformat it. Keeping that in mind, if you > intend to move it between a Windows machine and a Linux machine you > should stick to a file system the Windows OS understands. I've used external drives on Linux systems, using either USB or FireWire interfaces, and have had no trouble with using them as FAT32, NTFS, or reformatted as ext3. It all depends on what you plan on using it for, and where else you might connect it. (Just as John suggested above.) >> I just want to use one for storage, not to run an OS on. Also, as Bill mentioned, the BIOS is not an issue if you're not going to boot from it or use it with an OS that needs BIOS support for I/O. (Linux doesn't.) >> Best Buy has a SimpleTech 1 TB for $150. > >> Future Shop has Comstar One-touch 1 TB for $150. > > Storage is so cheap now is ridiculous. Mind you I'd be interested to > know how reliable they are. I've found that not only reliability can vary a lot, but performance too. So, you might want to check online first to get good technical specs., reviews, etc., before you buy. In particular with USB interfaces on these external drives, even if they're USB 2.0 rated, it doesn't mean you can get the maximum throughput that USB 2.0 would allow. Some of them are quite a bit slower than that. If you'll be transferring a lot of data, look for a drive that has good I/O performance. (I'm not familiar with either of the two you mention above, nor really any of the current crop of 1TB external drives, so I can't offer specific recommendations.) -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: Dept. of Computer Science Web: http://www.cs.umanitoba.ca/~gedetil/ University of Manitoba Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg MB CANADA R3T 2N2 Fax: (204)474-7609 From high.res.mike at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 11:40:47 2009 From: high.res.mike at gmail.com (Mike Pfaiffer) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:40:47 -0600 Subject: [RndTbl] External hard drives for Linux In-Reply-To: <200903031631.n23GVDQ01609@localhost.localdomain> References: <200903031631.n23GVDQ01609@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49AD6B9F.9020407@gmail.com> schwartz wrote: > I'm thinking of buying an external USB hard drive for my Linux desktop. > I'm concerned that these USB drives might be non-generic, somehow dependent > on XP/Vesta or have fixed file systems ( NTFS or FAT36 ) or just slow. > Are any of the above an issue, or do they do a reasonable job. > I just want to use one for storage, not to run an OS on. > Best Buy has a SimpleTech 1 TB for $150. > Future Shop has Comstar One-touch 1 TB for $150. > I don't think my BIOS can handle 1 TB drives but for that price > I'm temped anyway. > Any information would be most appreciated. I'm going to agree with the others at this point. I have two external drives. One on the PC (formatted with three partitions) and one on the Mac. The older one has held up for at least two and a half years with no problems. It takes at most 20 minutes to set up a blank unit. There is additional information in addition to my saying "Me too". I went out and picked up the box separate from the drive. The box is around $50 depending on what type of drive you're planning to put in it and where you pick it up. It may have dropped in price since I last picked one up. This approach has the advantage of being able to put in a stable drive. So at this point one has to ask the questions... What drives are stable at the moment? How are the current larger capacity drives (> 1TB)? If the drive is to sit at home... Would a NAS setup suit you better? Later Mike From gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca Tue Mar 3 12:20:34 2009 From: gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca (Gilbert E. Detillieux) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:20:34 -0600 (CST) Subject: [RndTbl] MUUG Meeting, Mar 10, 7:30pm -- MySQL Replication Message-ID: <200903031820.n23IKYD11787@iron.cs.umanitoba.ca> The Manitoba UNIX User Group (MUUG) will be holding its next monthly meeting on Tuesday, March 10. The meeting topic for this month is as follows: MySQL Replication Replication is a feature of MySQL that allows you to configure a MySQL daemon to be a "slave" that retrieves and executes logged changes from another MySQL daemon ("master"). Mark Jenkins of ParIT Worker Co-operative (parit.ca) will give an overview of the feature, discuss configuration and security, and demonstrate three key applications of replication: 1. Near-realtime offsite/offsystem backup, with point-in-time recovery 2. Failover - having a MySQL slave server take over and provide equivalent service when a master fails 3. Load balancing - one MySQL master server handles all writes, many slave MySQL servers handle read operations. This fits the workload profile of most dynamic websites. (e.g. Wikipedia) The group holds its general meetings at 7:30pm on the second Tuesday of every month from September to June. (There are no meetings in July and August.) Meetings are open to the general public; you don't have to be a MUUG member to attend. ********************************************************************** Please note our meeting location: The IBM offices, at 400 Ellice Ave. (between Edmonton and Kennedy). When you arrive, you will have to sign in at the reception desk, and then wait for someone to take you (in groups) to the meeting room. Please try to arrive by about 7:15pm, so the meeting can start promptly at 7:30pm. Don't be late, or you may not get in. (But don't come too early either, since security may not be there to let you in before 7:15 or so.) Non-members may be required to show photo ID at the security desk. Limited parking is available for free on the street, either on Ellice Ave. or on some of the intersecting streets. Indoor parking is also available nearby, at Portage Place, for $3.00 for the evening. Bicycle parking is available in a bike rack under video surveillance located behind the building on Webb Place. ********************************************************************** For more information about MUUG, and its monthly meetings, check out their Web server: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ Help us promote this month's meeting, by putting this poster up on your workplace bulletin board or other suitable public message board: http://www.muug.mb.ca/meetings/MUUGmeeting.pdf -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: Manitoba UNIX User Group Web: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ PO Box 130 St-Boniface Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg MB CANADA R2H 3B4 Fax: (204)474-7609 From uniquegeek at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 12:50:43 2009 From: uniquegeek at gmail.com (Kat) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:50:43 -0600 Subject: [RndTbl] Roundtable Digest, Vol 51, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I bought a LaCiE drive last year and from what I gathered most external USB drives are preformatted as FAT32. I'd recommend using FAT32 if there's any chance you'll do something like dragging it over to a friend who is using Windows. I keep mine plugged in at home all the time. I've noticed rarely (once every few months), I'll try to use Amarok or Kaffeine, but it can't find the file. If I open up the drive in some sort of file manager, it's enough of a kick in the pants that Amarok realizes that the drive is actually connected. Transfers tend to be slow. I came across this post by accident a while ago (which I haven't really investigated yet): -------------- 'I had the odd Linux version mount external FAT32-drives (USB sticks) with some crappy mount parameters that it would have been quicker to write the data on the HD with my own hands - yes, literally. So if you happen to use Linux.. Try mounting the external FAT drive without the "sync" option, i.e. with "mount -o async". But you'll have to remember to umount the external device manually before removing it; sometimes a lot of the writing happens only delayed at the time of umounting - at least it did sometimes with my SuSEs.' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.muug.mb.ca/pipermail/roundtable/attachments/20090303/65d1ee67/attachment.html From montanaq at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 13:50:14 2009 From: montanaq at gmail.com (Montana Quiring) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:50:14 -0600 Subject: [RndTbl] External hard drives for Linux In-Reply-To: <200903031631.n23GVDQ01609@localhost.localdomain> References: <200903031631.n23GVDQ01609@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: The only compatibility issues I've come across is with some external drives of the NAS (network attached storage) flavor. I've come across some that require a Windows client to be installed in order to access the drive through the network. But I think most external USB drive enclosures conform to know platform-independent standards now days. Buying hardware for Linux from a vendor that allows you to return it is always a good idea. :) -Montana My Google Reader Shared Items: http://tinyurl.com/montanashare My Netvibes page: http://www.netvibes.com/antikx#About_Montana On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:26 AM, schwartz wrote: > I'm thinking of buying an external USB hard drive for my Linux desktop. > I'm concerned that these USB drives might be non-generic, somehow dependent > on XP/Vesta or have fixed file systems ( NTFS or FAT36 ) or just slow. > ?Are any of the above an issue, or do they do a reasonable job. > I just want to use one for storage, not to run an OS on. > Best Buy has a SimpleTech 1 TB for $150. > Future Shop has Comstar One-touch 1 TB for $150. > ?I don't think my BIOS can handle 1 TB drives but for that price > ?I'm temped anyway. > Any information would be most appreciated. > > > _______________________________________________ > Roundtable mailing list > Roundtable at muug.mb.ca > http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable > -- From montanaq at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 09:37:39 2009 From: montanaq at gmail.com (Montana Quiring) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:37:39 -0600 Subject: [RndTbl] Stats on URL access/usage Message-ID: I'm wondering if there is a web tool like feedburner, but for general web page URL's instead. I wants stats! :) These URL's are to calendar links (ical, xml, etc) so to my knowledge I can't put tracking code on them to make use of a 3rd party tool like google analytics. Any suggestions? -- -Montana My Google Reader Shared Items: http://tinyurl.com/montanashare My Netvibes page: http://www.netvibes.com/antikx#About_Montana From swalberg at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 09:48:03 2009 From: swalberg at gmail.com (Sean Walberg) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:48:03 -0600 Subject: [RndTbl] Stats on URL access/usage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Proxy it through something else and use your web logs OTTOMH: ProxyPass /mycalendar/cal.xml http://calendar.google.com/blah/cal.xml in Apache will do it Sean On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Montana Quiring wrote: > I'm wondering if there is a web tool like feedburner, but for general > web page URL's instead. I wants stats! :) > These URL's are to calendar links (ical, xml, etc) so to my knowledge > I can't put tracking code on them to make use of a 3rd party tool like > google analytics. > > Any suggestions? > > -- > -Montana > My Google Reader Shared Items: > http://tinyurl.com/montanashare > My Netvibes page: > http://www.netvibes.com/antikx#About_Montana > _______________________________________________ > Roundtable mailing list > Roundtable at muug.mb.ca > http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable > -- Sean Walberg http://ertw.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.muug.mb.ca/pipermail/roundtable/attachments/20090305/40dc9a66/attachment.html From sean at franticfilms.com Thu Mar 5 18:35:42 2009 From: sean at franticfilms.com (Sean Cody) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:35:42 -0600 Subject: [RndTbl] Short term position to fill. Message-ID: If anyone is interested in doing some archiving work for a few months please send me an email and a resume. We've got a few large boat-loads of data that need to be herded to Winnipeg and then on to some tapes and we could use a few extra hands to make that go faster. Will train, though experience with Linux command line, tar, and a refined attention to detail preferred. Drop me a line with any questions and feel free to pass this along. -- Sean From Steve.Moffat at ca.ibm.com Fri Mar 13 13:46:26 2009 From: Steve.Moffat at ca.ibm.com (Steve Moffat) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:46:26 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] free 1 year subscription to Linux Journal on-line edition Message-ID: Hi Gang; LJ is giving away free one year subscriptions to their on-line mag. Watch the tech tips, get and unscramble the letters they give you, and submit them before the end of day today (Friday March 13th). http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/want-free-1-year-digital-subscription-linux-journal And don't let your "KERNEL PANIC" about the scrambled letters. Steve Moffat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.muug.mb.ca/pipermail/roundtable/attachments/20090313/122fbb4d/attachment.html From swalberg at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 07:59:56 2009 From: swalberg at gmail.com (Sean Walberg) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:59:56 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Google Measurement Lab, Wireshark, Sharkfest 09 Message-ID: There was talk earlier about the Google Measurement Lab which is the suite of online tools to see, among other things, if you're being throttled. The Wireshark conference, Sharkfest 09, is now featuring a session on the tool set. The conference runs from June 15 - 18th. I'll be at the conference again this year. Last year was an awesome time, I learned an incredible amount about Wireshark (and I use it on a daily basis). It's at Standford this year. Sean -- Sean Walberg http://ertw.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.muug.mb.ca/pipermail/roundtable/attachments/20090319/86df9ab6/attachment.html From gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca Fri Mar 20 13:22:55 2009 From: gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca (Gilbert E. Detillieux) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:22:55 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Fwd: AIX Administrator required - Calgary or Edmonton Message-ID: <49C3DEFF.70505@cs.umanitoba.ca> FYI... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Board] AIX Administrator required - Calgary or Edmonton Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:53:44 -0400 From: George Muenz I wonder if you could disseminate to your members. Our client is seeking an experienced AIX Administrator for a long term contract in Calgary. Start is ASAP Required Skills: This resource will need in depth Unix(AIX), LDAP, P Series Virtualization, HACMP, Edgeserver skills and knowledge of VIO Thanks George Muenz Senior Consultant TES - The Employment Solution georgem at tes.net 1-866-412-0377 ext. 2046 604-707-9018 ext. 2046 Fax: 1-866-260-8247 www.tes.net This e-mail transmission may contain confidential or legally privileged information that is intended only for the individual or entity named in the e-mail address. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance upon the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail transmission in error, please reply to the sender, so that we may resend it to the proper destination and then please delete the message from your in-box. The sender does not accept liability for any errors, omissions, corruption or viruses in the contents of this message, or in any attachments. From high.res.mike at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 10:12:11 2009 From: high.res.mike at gmail.com (Mike Pfaiffer) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:12:11 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Bootable CD with partition editor Message-ID: <49CB9B4B.7060703@gmail.com> I'm looking to find (as the title says) a bootable CD with a partition editor/resizer. We have a couple potentials in the Lab already. I won't know until I get in tomorrow if the program is already on them. If they are not there then I'd like to bring one in for tomorrow. The CDs we have are Kubuntu 8.10 and the Trinity Rescue Kit. The plan is to do some installs from disk archives of a small hard drive and expand the partition after the installation. If this works out it could save hours of work. Later Mike From trevor at tecnopolis.ca Thu Mar 26 10:44:52 2009 From: trevor at tecnopolis.ca (Trevor Cordes) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:44:52 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Bootable CD with partition editor In-Reply-To: <49CB9B4B.7060703@gmail.com> References: <49CB9B4B.7060703@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090326104452.62395dd7@pog.tecnopolis.ca> On 2009-03-26 Mike Pfaiffer wrote: > I'm looking to find (as the title says) a bootable CD with a > partition editor/resizer. We have a couple potentials in the Lab sysresccd.org! Last one you'll ever need. From high.res.mike at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 11:11:21 2009 From: high.res.mike at gmail.com (Mike Pfaiffer) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:11:21 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Bootable CD with partition editor In-Reply-To: <20090326104452.62395dd7@pog.tecnopolis.ca> References: <49CB9B4B.7060703@gmail.com> <20090326104452.62395dd7@pog.tecnopolis.ca> Message-ID: <49CBA929.3020603@gmail.com> Trevor Cordes wrote: > On 2009-03-26 Mike Pfaiffer wrote: >> I'm looking to find (as the title says) a bootable CD with a >> partition editor/resizer. We have a couple potentials in the Lab > > sysresccd.org! Last one you'll ever need. Looks exactly what we need. Thanks. I'm downloading the ISO now. Later Mike From gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca Fri Mar 27 15:55:35 2009 From: gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca (Gilbert E. Detillieux) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:55:35 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Fwd: Easy Peasy Compatibility List could use your LUG's help Message-ID: <49CD3D47.80603@cs.umanitoba.ca> Easy Peasy (formerly Ubuntu Eee)is an Ubuntu-based distribution for netbooks. They're looking for users of various netbooks to install it, try it out, and report results for their compatibility list. If you're interested, read on... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Easy Peasy Compatibility List could use your LUG's help Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:49:09 +0300 From: Joshua To: undisclosed-recipients:; Hello LUG Admin, The Easy Peasy Compatibility list could really use some input from your LUG members. Some of your members probably are owners of netbooks, which may be listed on our compatibility list. Unfortunately we don't have enough data about how they work with Easy Peasy. Our aim is to get Easy Peasy working out-of-the-box on every netbook in the market. Would you be willing to help us out with this? If yes, then please follow these simple instructions to input your details. http://www.geteasypeasy.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1303 We would really appreciate your help. I hope you will inform all the members of your LUG too. Thanks :) Joshua From gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca Mon Mar 30 13:38:02 2009 From: gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca (Gilbert E. Detillieux) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:38:02 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Fwd: looking for AIX Administrator Message-ID: <49D1118A.6020707@cs.umanitoba.ca> FYI... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Board] looking for AIX Administrator Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:18:50 -0400 From: George Muenz Hi I am looking for an AIX Administrator for a 1 year contract in Winnipeg, in case you know of anyone. Thanks George Muenz Senior Consultant TES - The Employment Solution 1-866-412-0377 ext. 2046 604-707-9018 ext. 2046 Fax: 1-866-260-8247 www.tes.net This e-mail transmission may contain confidential or legally privileged information that is intended only for the individual or entity named in the e-mail address. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance upon the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail transmission in error, please reply to the sender, so that we may resend it to the proper destination and then please delete the message from your in-box. The sender does not accept liability for any errors, omissions, corruption or viruses in the contents of this message, or in any attachments. From billreid at shaw.ca Tue Mar 31 10:57:51 2009 From: billreid at shaw.ca (Bill Reid) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:57:51 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] 10 open source books worth downloading Message-ID: <49D23D7F.5080509@shaw.ca> Interesting list by Alastair Otter of open source books about Linux. http://www.tectonic.co.za/?p=4491 Enjoy, Bill From john at johnlange.ca Tue Mar 31 13:16:32 2009 From: john at johnlange.ca (John Lange) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:16:32 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] =?utf-8?q?CRTC=E2=80=99s_online_consultation_on_Internet?= =?utf-8?q?_traffic_management?= Message-ID: <1238523392.5362.12.camel@linux-2sym> The CRTC has setup a web site to consult the public about throttling. There is even a youtube video from the CRTC... I know you're thinking "the CRTC knows about YouTube?!", but it's for real: http://isppractices.econsultation.ca/ There is even a place to post comments. Press Release: http://crtc.gc.ca/eng/news/releases/2009/r090331.htm If you haven't already made your thoughts known to the CRTC, now is your chance. -- John Lange http://www.johnlange.ca