From gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca Fri May 1 12:21:19 2009 From: gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca (Gilbert E. Detillieux) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 12:21:19 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Fwd: USENIX WebApps '10 Call for Papers Now Available Message-ID: <49FB2F8F.9030306@cs.umanitoba.ca> FYI... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: USENIX WebApps '10 Call for Papers Now Available Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:00:53 -0700 From: Lionel Garth Jones On behalf of the Program Committee, I would like to invite you to submit your work to the USENIX Conference on Web Application Development (WebApps '10). WebApps '10 is a new technical conference designed to bring together experts in all aspects of developing and deploying Web applications. Suggested topics related to Web application development include but are not limited to: * Computing substrates and deployment technologies ("cloud computing") * Frameworks for developing Web applications * Client-side toolkits, libraries, and plug-ins * Storage systems * Security issues for Web applications * Management techniques for large-scale Web applications * Languages for Web applications * Scalability issues and techniques * Techniques for creating highly interactive Web applications * Software as a service * Applications that illustrate interesting new features or implementation techniques * Performance measurements of Web applications * Real-time data delivery over the Web * Web services Paper submissions are due by January 11, 2010. The Call for Papers, with submission guidelines, can be found at http://www.usenix.org/webapps10/cfpa/ The USENIX Conference on Web Application Development (WebApps '10) will take place June 20?25, 2010, in Boston, MA. The technical sessions will take place on June 23?25. I look forward to receiving your submissions! Sincerely, John Ousterhout, Stanford University WebApps '10 Program Chair webapps10chair at usenix.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Call for Papers: USENIX Conference on Web Application Development (WebApps '10) June 20?25, 2010 Boston, MA http://www.usenix.org/webapps10/cfpa Paper submissions deadline: January 11, 2010 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From john at johnlange.ca Mon May 4 09:42:33 2009 From: john at johnlange.ca (John Lange) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 09:42:33 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Linux to SCO telnet? Message-ID: <1241448153.5957.14.camel@linux-2sym> Does anyone have a quick way to make Linux telnet work with SCO? Apparently SCO uses something called SCOANSI? Mostly it seems to be compatible but any of the SCO menu driven stuff is unreadable and backspace is broken. -- John Lange http://www.johnlange.ca From sean at tinfoilhat.ca Mon May 4 10:26:43 2009 From: sean at tinfoilhat.ca (Sean Cody) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:26:43 -0700 Subject: [RndTbl] Linux to SCO telnet? In-Reply-To: <1241448153.5957.14.camel@linux-2sym> References: <1241448153.5957.14.camel@linux-2sym> Message-ID: Have you tried using Control-H instead of the backspace key? Odds are you just need a new entry in your termcap to handle the SCOANSI line discipline. This might help; http://aplawrence.com/Bofcusm/266.html On 4-May-09, at 7:42 AM, John Lange wrote: > Does anyone have a quick way to make Linux telnet work with SCO? > > Apparently SCO uses something called SCOANSI? Mostly it seems to be > compatible but any of the SCO menu driven stuff is unreadable and > backspace is broken. > > -- > John Lange > http://www.johnlange.ca > > _______________________________________________ > Roundtable mailing list > Roundtable at muug.mb.ca > http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable -- Sean From athompso at athompso.net Mon May 4 23:39:38 2009 From: athompso at athompso.net (Adam Thompson) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 23:39:38 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Linux to SCO telnet? In-Reply-To: <1241448153.5957.14.camel@linux-2sym> References: <1241448153.5957.14.camel@linux-2sym> Message-ID: <8ce1230f0905042139m2d44e229q42bb6660f94b955d@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 09:42, John Lange wrote: > Does anyone have a quick way to make Linux telnet work with SCO? > > Apparently SCO uses something called SCOANSI? Mostly it seems to be > compatible but any of the SCO menu driven stuff is unreadable and > backspace is broken. As Sean said, using Ctrl-H might work instead of the "Backspace" key; in either case you can also use stty(1) on the SCO system to make it adapt to whatever ASCII sequence your Backspace key sends. If the Backspace key works at the command line but not inside other programs (vi, for example) then you'll need to escape it: stty erase will generally work. If on the other hand hitting Backspace at the command prompt simply displays a control sequence of some sort, then stty erase should be sufficient. As of that point, the backspace key should function normally. As to the menu-driven stuff, you're largely going to be S.O.L. unless it's actually termcap/terminfo-driven. In which case, your best bet would be to use an xterm, not the Linux console as I don't know of any SCO systems that have a termcap entry that matches the Linux console... Best option I can think of for compatability if you need true SCOANSI would be to tunnel X by SSHing to the SCO system and run "scoterm" or "dtterm" (typically found in /usr/dt/bin, IIRC) one of which should provide full emulation. Or run a Windows terminal emulator that supports SCOANSI under WINE :-) -- -Adam Thompson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.muug.mb.ca/pipermail/roundtable/attachments/20090504/eb9a34c5/attachment.html From gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca Tue May 5 10:18:13 2009 From: gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca (Gilbert E. Detillieux) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 10:18:13 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [RndTbl] MUUG Meeting, May 12, 7:30pm -- VirtualBox Message-ID: <200905051518.n45FID807052@iron.cs.umanitoba.ca> The Manitoba UNIX User Group (MUUG) will be holding its next monthly meeting on Tuesday, May 12. The meeting topic for this month is as follows: VirtualBox - Run Several Virtual Systems On A Single Host Computer Sun's xVM VirtualBox offers full virtualization on many host platforms for many guest systems like Linux, Windows, BSD, OpenSolaris and many others. VirtualBox requires no changes in the guest systems and provides for guests as far back as MS-DOS and forward to Windows Vista and OpenSolaris. In this presentation, Daryl Fonseca-Holt, from the University of Manitoba, will explain what kind of virtualization VirtualBox offers, the major features it has, and some of the uses it can be put to. During the demo, Daryl will show how to set up for a new guest in VirtualBox, install the guest, and show the effect Guest Add-ins have on the user experience of the guest system. The group holds its general meetings at 7:30pm on the second Tuesday of every month from September to June. (There are no meetings in July and August.) Meetings are open to the general public; you don't have to be a MUUG member to attend. ********************************************************************** Please note our meeting location: The IBM offices, at 400 Ellice Ave. (between Edmonton and Kennedy). When you arrive, you will have to sign in at the reception desk, and then wait for someone to take you (in groups) to the meeting room. Please try to arrive by about 7:15pm, so the meeting can start promptly at 7:30pm. Don't be late, or you may not get in. (But don't come too early either, since security may not be there to let you in before 7:15 or so.) Non-members may be required to show photo ID at the security desk. Limited parking is available for free on the street, either on Ellice Ave. or on some of the intersecting streets. Indoor parking is also available nearby, at Portage Place, for $5.00 for the evening. Bicycle parking is available in a bike rack under video surveillance located behind the building on Webb Place. ********************************************************************** For more information about MUUG, and its monthly meetings, check out their Web server: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ Help us promote this month's meeting, by putting this poster up on your workplace bulletin board or other suitable public message board: http://www.muug.mb.ca/meetings/MUUGmeeting.pdf -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: Manitoba UNIX User Group Web: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ PO Box 130 St-Boniface Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg MB CANADA R2H 3B4 Fax: (204)474-7609 From high.res.mike at gmail.com Wed May 6 13:01:01 2009 From: high.res.mike at gmail.com (Mike Pfaiffer) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 13:01:01 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] CLL article in the newsletter Message-ID: <4A01D05D.6050101@gmail.com> I was actually intending to respond earlier but my monitor kind of died over the last couple of days. I've managed to set up another one so I'm good for a while now... :-) The article was precise and to the point. We do community outreach to help people who have been left behind by the "digital revolution". The goal is to provide /minimal/ training so people are able to use computers. After the course mentioned in the article, the students are entitled to an older computer (so as not to affect sales at retail stores). We have a fair number of computers coming back for repair of hardware and software. We could use a volunteer (maybe more later) to help with these machines. We currently have five machines waiting repair as well as a "lame duck" pile which needs a bit more time. If we can catch up we should have time for other projects. Apart from classes, we're only there one day per week. At this point almost all the computers loaned out are Windows 2000 machines. However we have had requests for Linux machines and Macs. We treat them as special single unit requests. The folks in charge are reluctant to encourage anything non-Microsoft for a couple of reasons. All the folks in the Selkirk office (with one exception) only know Microsoft. They are worried about supporting something they aren't familiar with. Finally some students want to use the machines to get work and some employers want employees who *only use Microsoft*. This sort of relates to the MUUG for a few reasons. 1) All our tools are *NIX based 2) We have the special requests I mentioned earlier 3) After three returns due to virus infections the student is either dropped or offered a Linux box 4) We don't know how students will react to Linux machines (we've only had one Linux return because the student bought a new computer). The folks in charge are really excited about being approached by the MUUG. They are hoping things will develop further. You'll recognise the people from the Winnipeg lab. Three of us are already members of the MUUG and two others show up occasionally. If things work out we should all be at the next meeting on Tuesday. Later Mike From john at johnlange.ca Fri May 8 09:53:23 2009 From: john at johnlange.ca (John Lange) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 09:53:23 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] SCO cron hangs "Cannot create temporary file" Message-ID: <1241794403.5409.53.camel@linux-2sym> Being the only "*nix" person in our office, I've been designated to fix a problem on a old SCO server. I know what you're thinking because I thought the same thing; "it's a dream come true!" but I didn't let my enthusiasm show. The problem is that cron was "hanging" in the middle of the night roughly every second day. The log show that it was throwing an error: "Cannot create temporary file" around 4:30am every second day, but the exact time and process running isn't always the same. /tmp and /usr/tmp are normal looking and there should be enough free disk space so that isn't the problem. Thinking that maybe something was suddenly chewing up disk and then being cleared I setup a little cron to log disk usage every 15 minutes. Now cron hangs _every day_ at about 16:30! In order to restart cron, its FIFO pipe file has to be deleted and the box rebooted. Again, disk usage is not a problem. Anyone know anything about how SCO cron works? -- John Lange http://www.johnlange.ca From gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca Fri May 8 10:21:04 2009 From: gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca (Gilbert E. Detillieux) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 10:21:04 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] SCO cron hangs "Cannot create temporary file" In-Reply-To: <1241794403.5409.53.camel@linux-2sym> References: <1241794403.5409.53.camel@linux-2sym> Message-ID: <4A044DE0.900@cs.umanitoba.ca> On 2009-05-08 09:53, John Lange wrote: > Being the only "*nix" person in our office, I've been designated to fix > a problem on a old SCO server. > > I know what you're thinking because I thought the same thing; "it's a > dream come true!" but I didn't let my enthusiasm show. > > The problem is that cron was "hanging" in the middle of the night > roughly every second day. The log show that it was throwing an error: > "Cannot create temporary file" around 4:30am every second day, but the > exact time and process running isn't always the same. > > /tmp and /usr/tmp are normal looking and there should be enough free > disk space so that isn't the problem. I did a Google search on your subject line, and the only suggested solution seems to be what you've already considered. > Thinking that maybe something was suddenly chewing up disk and then > being cleared I setup a little cron to log disk usage every 15 minutes. > > Now cron hangs _every day_ at about 16:30! Am I correct in assuming that the added crontab entry increased the frequency of occurrence? > In order to restart cron, its FIFO pipe file has to be deleted and the > box rebooted. > > Again, disk usage is not a problem. > > Anyone know anything about how SCO cron works? I know nothing specific about SCO cron, but... Given that the frequency of occurrence seems to have increased after you added new cron entries, I'm thinking it's a process or system resource allocation issue. Check your per-process open file limit as well as system-wide open file limit. Also, check any other limits that might affect file creation/opening. Early UNIX systems had hard-coded limits for a lot of in-kernel tables, such as open file table, cached inode table (yes, that was separate), etc. When you wanted to tweak these, you'd have to rebuild your kernel. Not sure how SCO does things, nor what specific limits there would be, how you'd change them, etc. -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: Dept. of Computer Science Web: http://www.cs.umanitoba.ca/~gedetil/ University of Manitoba Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg MB CANADA R3T 2N2 Fax: (204)474-7609 From trevor at tecnopolis.ca Fri May 8 10:26:04 2009 From: trevor at tecnopolis.ca (Trevor Cordes) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 10:26:04 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] SCO cron hangs "Cannot create temporary file" In-Reply-To: <1241794403.5409.53.camel@linux-2sym> References: <1241794403.5409.53.camel@linux-2sym> Message-ID: <20090508102604.2c0d6785@pog.tecnopolis.ca> On 2009-05-08 John Lange wrote: > Thinking that maybe something was suddenly chewing up disk and then > being cleared I setup a little cron to log disk usage every 15 > minutes. Don't use cron for that. Just do a bash or perl script that runs all the time with a sleep 900 between df (or whatever else you want to see) calls, all wrapped in a while(1) {} loop. From montanaq at gmail.com Thu May 14 09:28:48 2009 From: montanaq at gmail.com (Montana Quiring) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:28:48 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Looking for an Appliance Message-ID: Hello, Can anyone recommend an appliance that runs Linux and does: -packet shaping to throttle p2p traffic -authentication (ldap or other way of needing people to log in with ID and pass in order to gain Internet access) with ability to -MAC filtering to let people through (bypass authentication) or block people -firewall -web admin interface -- -Montana Blog: http://montanaquiring.info My Friend Feed: http://friendfeed.com/antikx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.muug.mb.ca/pipermail/roundtable/attachments/20090514/cc162789/attachment.html From tim at fractaldragon.net Thu May 14 10:10:00 2009 From: tim at fractaldragon.net (Tim Lavoie) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:10:00 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Looking for an Appliance In-Reply-To: (sfid-20090514_102922_212554_6B7F964C) References: (sfid-20090514_102922_212554_6B7F964C) Message-ID: <5339.1242313800@fractaldragon.net> Montana Quiring wrote: > Hello, > > Can anyone recommend an appliance that runs Linux and does: > -packet shaping to throttle p2p traffic > -authentication (ldap or other way of needing people to log in with ID and pass > in order to gain Internet access) with ability to > -MAC filtering to let people through (bypass authentication) or block people > -firewall > -web admin interface Firewall-oriented distros such as IPCop and Smoothwall probably do much of what you're looking for. I believe the latter is available in appliance form if you didn't want to throw together an old PC. I use pfSense, which is FreeBSD-based, but is otherwise similar to the Linux versions mentioned above. All have fairly easy setup, with web-based admin interfaces. pfSense does have traffic shaping and a captive portal (e.g. log in first) option, I believe RADIUS and web-admin-defined users are supported. Not sure if the Linux distros do the shaping and portal options, it's been a while since I used them. MAC filtering should be seen as a convenience only, as it provides no real added security. If you can see successful traffic passing on the wire, you can spoof your own MAC to match. Either way, I don't recall if it's an option in the web interfaces, but you can always muck with lower-level settings in the shell if it isn't. Cheers, Tim -- "Programming is like sex: one mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life." -Michael Sinz From montanaq at gmail.com Thu May 14 10:17:56 2009 From: montanaq at gmail.com (Montana Quiring) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:17:56 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Looking for an Appliance In-Reply-To: <5339.1242313800@fractaldragon.net> References: <5339.1242313800@fractaldragon.net> Message-ID: Tim, Thanks for all the tips. I should add this this box will need to handle as many as 400 connections. 99.9% of the users won't know how to change their MAC address. The MAC filter is basically just to get their attention. :) -Montana On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Tim Lavoie wrote: > Montana Quiring wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > Can anyone recommend an appliance that runs Linux and does: > > -packet shaping to throttle p2p traffic > > -authentication (ldap or other way of needing people to log in with ID > and pass > > in order to gain Internet access) with ability to > > -MAC filtering to let people through (bypass authentication) or block > people > > -firewall > > -web admin interface > > Firewall-oriented distros such as IPCop and Smoothwall probably do much > of what you're looking for. I believe the latter is available in > appliance form if you didn't want to throw together an old PC. > > I use pfSense, which is FreeBSD-based, but is otherwise similar to the > Linux versions mentioned above. All have fairly easy setup, with > web-based admin interfaces. pfSense does have traffic shaping and a > captive portal (e.g. log in first) option, I believe RADIUS and > web-admin-defined users are supported. Not sure if the Linux distros do > the shaping and portal options, it's been a while since I used them. > > MAC filtering should be seen as a convenience only, as it provides no > real added security. If you can see successful traffic passing on the > wire, you can spoof your own MAC to match. Either way, I don't recall if > it's an option in the web interfaces, but you can always muck with > lower-level settings in the shell if it isn't. > > Cheers, > Tim > > -- > "Programming is like sex: one mistake and you have to support it for > the rest of your life." -Michael Sinz > -- -Montana Blog: http://montanaquiring.info My Friend Feed: http://friendfeed.com/antikx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.muug.mb.ca/pipermail/roundtable/attachments/20090514/addddbb4/attachment.html From tim at fractaldragon.net Thu May 14 10:21:30 2009 From: tim at fractaldragon.net (Tim Lavoie) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:21:30 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Looking for an Appliance In-Reply-To: (sfid-20090514_102922_212554_6B7F964C) References: (sfid-20090514_102922_212554_6B7F964C) Message-ID: <5612.1242314490@fractaldragon.net> Just to update, pfSense does support pass-through lists for MAC addresses and source or destination IP addresses. Per-user throttling, session durations etc. can also be configured, though a max session length will apply to MAC-whitelisted connections as well. They (pfSense) don't directly offer an appliance, but do offer commercial support. Recommended hardware vendors are listed, some with pfSense pre-installed, here: http://www.pfsense.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=44&Itemid=50 -- "Programming is like sex: one mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life." -Michael Sinz From tim at fractaldragon.net Thu May 14 10:30:39 2009 From: tim at fractaldragon.net (Tim Lavoie) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:30:39 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Looking for an Appliance In-Reply-To: (sfid-20090514_111812_799723_D86FCE09) References: <5339.1242313800@fractaldragon.net> (sfid-20090514_111812_799723_D86FCE09) Message-ID: <5781.1242315039@fractaldragon.net> Montana Quiring wrote: > Tim, > > Thanks for all the tips. > I should add this this box will need to handle as many as 400 connections. > > 99.9% of the users won't know how to change their MAC address. The MAC filter > is basically just to get their attention. :) Heheh. You're quite welcome. You're right, the filtering will take care of most people. As for number of connections, I think you would still do fine with modest hardware. They do have a sizing guide on the site, based on expected bandwidth and some other features used such as VPN. I would add that memory requirements should take add-on apps into account, for example you can set up snort and squid there too from available packages. Still, you can scale nicely if you can use a slightly-less-old system. -- "Programming is like sex: one mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life." -Michael Sinz From athompso at athompso.net Thu May 14 11:52:14 2009 From: athompso at athompso.net (Adam Thompson) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:52:14 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Looking for an Appliance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8ce1230f0905140952l66fd1cabtee0554f472a5a94c@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 09:28, Montana Quiring wrote: > Can anyone recommend an appliance that runs Linux and does: > -packet shaping to throttle p2p traffic > -authentication (ldap or other way of needing people to log in with ID and > pass in order to gain Internet access) with ability to > -MAC filtering to let people through (bypass authentication) or block > people > -firewall > -web admin interface > Astaro (http://www.astaro.com, http://www.astaro.ca is a reseller) provides their software in an appliance form-factor now. I'd evaluated their product quite a few versions ago, and it looked solid. AFAIK it has everything you need. -- -Adam Thompson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.muug.mb.ca/pipermail/roundtable/attachments/20090514/de543de8/attachment.html From gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca Thu May 14 15:28:35 2009 From: gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca (Gilbert E. Detillieux) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:28:35 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Fwd: USENIX 2009 Annual Technical Conference - Top 5 Reasons to Attend Message-ID: <4A0C7EF3.6080701@cs.umanitoba.ca> FYI... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: USENIX 2009 Annual Technical Conference - Top 5 Reasons to Attend Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:56:25 -0700 From: Lionel Garth Jones USENIX '09 offers a cost-effective, one-stop shop for the latest in IT training, breakthroughs, and systems research. Check out the top 5 reasons to join us in San Diego, CA, June 14-19, 2009: 1. Training that keeps you ahead of the game: The 6-day training program at USENIX '09 provides in-depth and immediately useful training on the latest techniques, effective tools, and best strategies to help you stay competitive. Take a full series or individual classes covering: -- Solaris: Debugging, administration, and DTrace taught by James Mauro, Peter Baer Galvin, and Marc Staveley -- Virtualization: Xen Hypervisor, VMware ESX 3i, and security taught by Phil Cox, Wenjin Hu, Zach Shepherd, and Dan Anderson -- Plus classes on cloud computing by Milind Bhandarkar, system administration by David N. Blank-Edelman, and more To view the entire training program, see http://www.usenix.org/usenix09/training 2. Invited Talks that feature luminaries in computing discussing timely and important topics, such as: -- Keynote Address, "Where Does the Power Go in High-Scale Data Centers?" by James Hamilton, VP & Distinguished Engineer, Amazon Web Services -- Closing Plenary Session by David Brin, Hugo Award-winning author, on "Third Millennium Problem-Solving: Can New Visualization and Collaboration Tools Make a Difference?" -- Diomidis Spinellis, Athens University of Economics and Business, on "The Antikythera Mechanism: Hacking with Gears" -- And more! http://www.usenix.org/usenix09/tech 3. You'll see it here first: -- The latest developments in cutting-edge systems research in the Refereed Papers track: http://www.usenix.org/usenix09/tech -- An introduction to interesting new and ongoing work at the Poster Session: http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix09/activities.html#poster 4. The chance to mingle with industry leaders and hiring managers: -- Evening events such as the Birds-of-a-Feather (BoF) sessions offer additional opportunities to network with peers to gain that all-important "insider" IT knowledge: http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix09/bofs.html 5. The opportunity to create your own conference: Whether your focus is system administration, security, virtualization, coding, open source,networking, cloud computing, Solaris, or a bit of them all, USENIX '09 has the information you're looking for. Follow the icons listed here to create the conference that meets your needs: http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix09/themes/ And that's just the beginning. Visit http://www.usenix.org/usenix09/progb to see the full list of offerings. Don't forget: -- Register by June 1 and save up to $300! http://www.usenix.org/usenix09/registration -- Additional discounts available: From government and non-profit employees to groups of 5 or more, USENIX has new ways for you to save: http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix09/discounts.html -- Chat with other attendees on the USENIX '09 Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=29453586085&ref=ts ---------------------------------------------- 2009 USENIX Annual Technical Conference June 14-19, 2009, San Diego, CA http://www.usenix.org/usenix09/progb Early Bird Registration Deadline: June 1, 2009 From gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca Thu May 14 15:29:54 2009 From: gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca (Gilbert E. Detillieux) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:29:54 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Fwd: FREE Linux Stuff Message-ID: <4A0C7F42.4040608@cs.umanitoba.ca> FYI... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Board] FREE Linux Stuff Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:45:18 -0300 From: Luke Hansen Hey guys, We are running a Free Linux Stuff promo and thought you might be interested - pass it on! http://www.thegeekchic.ca/shop/free_linux_stuff.html Cheers, Luke From obwolfe at shaw.ca Fri May 15 17:34:02 2009 From: obwolfe at shaw.ca (B.Wolfe) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:34:02 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Nagios front ends Message-ID: <000301c9d5ad$3fb16a60$b401a8c0@W4> Has anyone got any experience using Front ends for configuring/managing nagios? Any recommendations/suggestions? Thanks in advance for the thoughts. http://techgurulive.com/2008/08/25/10-nagios-web-frontends/ Brock From athompso at athompso.net Fri May 15 20:53:28 2009 From: athompso at athompso.net (Adam Thompson) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 20:53:28 -0500 Subject: [RndTbl] Nagios front ends In-Reply-To: <000301c9d5ad$3fb16a60$b401a8c0@W4> References: <000301c9d5ad$3fb16a60$b401a8c0@W4> Message-ID: <8ce1230f0905151853xfae1b29ud0975e6495fe298f@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 17:34, B.Wolfe wrote: > Has anyone got any experience using Front ends for configuring/managing > nagios? Any recommendations/suggestions? Thanks in advance for the > thoughts. > I used Groundwork to replace a pre-existing Nagios installation. It's definitely a step up from editing Nagios config files directly, but I certainly wouldn't call it intuitive or even easy to use. It's gone through an entire major revision bump since then, though, so I don't know how much it's improved. I will note that while it greatly simplified many aspects of Nagios configuration, it does add another entire layer of software which ups the overall complexity of the system. And it doesn't particularly like you manually fuding the config files it manages. Other than that, I moved fairly quickly from Groundwork to Zenoss because I couldn't stand the configuration paradigm underlying Nagios. (Then I found out how complex and confusing Zenoss was, but oh well...) -- -Adam Thompson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.muug.mb.ca/pipermail/roundtable/attachments/20090515/6f940ee9/attachment.html