<html><head></head><body>Or set up your own mail relay with a cloud provider, and funnel everything through there over IPsec or even just a private port #. This can be done for as little as US$2.99/month.<br>
-Adam<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On April 25, 2015 12:51:54 PM CDT, Hartmut W Sager <hwsager@marityme.net> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I have a simple solution - don't be dependent on the whims of your ISP for mail servers. I'm using Tucows/OpenSRS for my globally accessible (authenticated) SMTP server, which also means I won't be rejected for "relaying" if I connect my laptop to the Internet at some other premises than my own.<br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Also, for good measure, I am using this same SMTP server at Gmail, where (policy change in Sep 2014) any newly created "from" address requires you to supply your own SMTP server (a BYOS policy - "bring your own server").<br /></div><div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">For a Tucows/OpenSRS reseller, that SMTP server costs $0.50 per month - a negligible cost.<br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Regarding MTS, I believe they recently switched from MS Live/Hotmail/Outlook to something else for their mail service offering (@<a href="http://mymts.net">mymts.net</a>).<br /></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br /></div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Hartmut W Sager - Tel +1-204-339-8331<br /></span><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div
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</span><br /><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 April 2015 at 01:31, Trevor Cordes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trevor@tecnopolis.ca" target="_blank">trevor@tecnopolis.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Great, Shaw is playing with email things again :-(<br />
<br />
All of a sudden all emails from my box (on a shaw cable modem) outgoing<br />
(via Shaw's recommended smarthost) were being blocked by Shaw. They<br />
blocked me from 1am to 4:30pm.<br />
<br />
I've been using this setup for 10+ years and never had a problem. They<br />
must have switched to a new email outsource service or something.<br />
<br />
Even funnier, what triggered it seems to be this: I'm trying to help my<br />
customer with Spam problems and the RT ticket he made (and hence email<br />
subject) had the word "Spam" and Shaw barfed it back and started the<br />
blocking without warning:<br />
<br />
=========================<br />
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 01:07:55 -0500<br />
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <<a href="mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@tecnopolis.ca">MAILER-DAEMON@tecnopolis.ca</a>><br />
Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details<br />
<br />
The original message was received at Fri, 24 Apr 2015 01:07:54 -0500<br />
from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]<br />
<br />
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----<br />
<<a href="mailto:customer@mycustomer.com">customer@mycustomer.com</a>><br />
(reason: 552 5.2.0 lWmIYQYgD7S0qlWmJYSEv0 spam rejected)<br />
<br />
----- Transcript of session follows -----<br />
... while talking to <a href="http://shawmail.wp.shawcable.net" target="_blank">shawmail.wp.shawcable.net</a>:<br />
>>> DATA<br />
<<< 552 5.2.0 lWmIYQYgD7S0qlWmJYSEv0 spam rejected<br />
554 5.0.0 Service unavailable<br />
<br />
[...]<br />
Subject: [Tecnopolis #2173] Spam Possible<br />
=========================<br />
<br />
Hahaha. Pathetic. So any email that wants to talk about spam and has<br />
that word in the subject is blocked? What if I want to talk about<br />
viagra or rolex, is that blocked too?<br />
<br />
All subsequent emails for the whole day got a bounce:<br />
<br />
=========================<br />
The original message was received at Fri, 24 Apr 2015 02:54:59 -0500<br />
from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]<br />
<br />
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----<br />
<<a href="mailto:customer@mycustomer.com">customer@mycustomer.com</a>><br />
(reason: 554 mo23.dcs.int.inet <a href="http://shaw.ca" target="_blank">shaw.ca</a> ESMTP server not available)<br />
<br />
----- Transcript of session follows -----<br />
... while talking to <a href="http://shawmail.wp.shawcable.net" target="_blank">shawmail.wp.shawcable.net</a>:<br />
<<< 554 mo23.dcs.int.inet <a href="http://shaw.ca" target="_blank">shaw.ca</a> ESMTP server not available<br />
554 5.0.0 Service unavailable<br />
=========================<br />
<br />
WTF is mo23.dcs.int.inet? Looks new to me.<br />
<br />
Anyhow, after a call to a clueless tech rep telling me I'm unsupported<br />
because I run sendmail *simply as an outgoing mail MTA pointing directly<br />
to their smart host* and an email to their (hopefully) more advanced<br />
techs, I got nowhere until it magically fixed itself at 4:30. I probably<br />
hit their BL timeout or something.<br />
<br />
I dare anyone on the Shaw network using normal SMTP outgoing to send an<br />
email with the subject of "sp*m" (I dare not spell it out in full, he who<br />
can't be named and all that). Let me know if they block you for a day and<br />
whether you get anywhere with tech support.<br />
<br />
Shame on Shaw. Almost getting as bad as MTS. Wait a minute, no one can<br />
get *that* bad (MS Live mail anyone?). :-)<br />
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