<html><head></head><body>I gave up doing that after the Venetian hotel in Vegas accused me of hacking their systems when I *reported* email database leakage... "The best defense is a good offense" - as long as you've got the right target in your sights.<br>
-Adam<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On April 26, 2015 12:13:25 AM CDT, Trevor Cordes <trevor@tecnopolis.ca> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">On 2015-04-25 Bradford C. Vokey wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> Trevor Cordes (and myself) use vendor specific email addresses when<br /> we sign up for services (it's easy when you control your own domain).<br /></blockquote><br />Yes, it's shocking the number of big companies that leak my email:<br /><br />xerox<br />primus<br />hydro<br />viewsonic<br />seagate<br />...<br /><br />there's dozens, at least.<br /><br />Also, I've found those little paper-based "enter to win" boxes at local<br />food joints / stores are all just big lying spam traps. I think they<br />are just phishing scams but in the physical world. Sometimes when I<br />have nothing better to do I'll enter those (with a unique email<br />address) and within months I get hundreds of spams to that address, and<br />AFAIK no one ever wins everything. I guess I fell for a "brick &<br />mortar"
scam; were it a cyber scam I'd never fall for it. Luckily I can<br />just /dev/null that one-off address. "Woodlands" is the worst: they<br />claim to give away a nice looking oil painting each month. All they<br />give away is spam. Since this is in the "real world" and in Canada, why<br />aren't the cops on their case? I mean, someone has to pick up the<br />little boxes! Someone has to get consent from the retail establishment.<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> So how (and when) did Manitoba Hydro get their email accounts list<br /> hacked?<br /> <br /> If so, what else got hacked? Our per-authorized Debit information?!?<br /></blockquote><br />Ha, ya. One would hope they'd be in separate DBs!<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> If not, then did they actually sell their email accounts
lists to<br /> spam lists?<br /></blockquote><br />That I *seriously* doubt. They'd get in big doodoo for that. Now, did<br />a single employee steal the list and sell it? Maybe... More likely<br />they were compromised somehow.<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> ...P.S. If anyone wants to meet some desperate Russian chick feel<br /> free to believe in the spam...<br /></blockquote><br />Doh! By including the spam in your posting you a) got your email put in<br />my possible-spam-(low) folder, and b) present me with the dilemma of<br />whether to mark the entire email as spam or not-spam :-) I know Bayes<br />will most likely "do the right thing" but I can't see anything good<br />about giving "Russian chick" a less-spammy Bayesian weighting. Hmm, I<br />guess I will have to mark it as not-spam, as I don't yet have a maildir<br />folder called: "keep these emails, they look spammy
but are not, so<br />don't train on them". That seems just one step too far down the road<br />to insanity.<br /><br />;-)<br /><hr /><br />Roundtable mailing list<br />Roundtable@muug.mb.ca<br /><a href="http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable">http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable</a><br /></pre></blockquote></div><br>
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